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	<title>Comments on: Is it possible to update a joined field ?</title>
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		<title>By: sant</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-5/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>sant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi every one ,
my openion is forget about inner joins as every one know those are all updatable like normal field in BC.the issue is about the outer joins ....isn&#039;t it?
&#160;i feel we can update by directly by DPL or by Making Admin Mode Flag is True.as indirectly by updating the original field which is in other BC&#160;(Parent BC) ,
i know for that we&#160;should know the actual name of the field and BC.
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hope u got my point ....let me know if there is any issues .........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>Hi every one ,<br />
my openion is forget about inner joins as every one know those are all updatable like normal field in BC.the issue is about the outer joins &#8230;.isn&#039;t it?<br />
&nbsp;i feel we can update by directly by DPL or by Making Admin Mode Flag is True.as indirectly by updating the original field which is in other BC&nbsp;(Parent BC) ,<br />
i know for that we&nbsp;should know the actual name of the field and BC.<br />
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hope u got my point &#8230;.let me know if there is any issues &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aMIT</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-4/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>aMIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 08:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joined Fields can be updated using dynamic picklist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>Joined Fields can be updated using dynamic picklist</p>
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		<title>By: Naresh</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-4/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>Naresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joined Field can be Updated ny Updating the foreign Key Field.This can be done using Dynamic Pick Lists</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>Joined Field can be Updated ny Updating the foreign Key Field.This can be done using Dynamic Pick Lists</p>
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		<title>By: Alexey Gerassimov</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-4/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexey Gerassimov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span&gt;It is easy: to &lt;strong&gt;explitict joins &lt;/strong&gt;(joines that you have defined) use picklist and pickmaps. 
	For &lt;strong&gt;implicit joins&lt;/strong&gt; (1:1 std. extension and intersection tables on child BCs of association) just populate the field with its value. &lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p><span>It is easy: to <strong>explitict joins </strong>(joines that you have defined) use picklist and pickmaps.<br />
	For <strong>implicit joins</strong> (1:1 std. extension and intersection tables on child BCs of association) just populate the field with its value. </span></p>
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		<title>By: Jhonny</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-4/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>Jhonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 20:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See how one can update JOIN FIELD...
UPDATE (SELECT BONUS FROM EMPLOYEE_BONUS B INNER JOIN EMPLOYEES E ON B.EMPLOYEE_ID = E.EMPLOYEE_ID WHERE E.BONUS_ELIGIBLE = &#039;N&#039;) T SET T.BONUS = 0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>See how one can update JOIN FIELD&#8230;<br />
UPDATE (SELECT BONUS FROM EMPLOYEE_BONUS B INNER JOIN EMPLOYEES E ON B.EMPLOYEE_ID = E.EMPLOYEE_ID WHERE E.BONUS_ELIGIBLE = &#039;N&#039;) T SET T.BONUS = 0</p>
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		<title>By: Saket Shukla</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-4/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Saket Shukla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span&gt;The update through direct entry of value (Without choosing values from any applet like Pick or MVG) is avaliable for fields having Implicit join (Join dilivered with the packege and not created by developers) while the join fields (for explicit join fields) can be updated by using Pick applets,MVgs or through scripts.&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p><span>The update through direct entry of value (Without choosing values from any applet like Pick or MVG) is avaliable for fields having Implicit join (Join dilivered with the packege and not created by developers) while the join fields (for explicit join fields) can be updated by using Pick applets,MVgs or through scripts.</span></p>
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		<title>By: Tjip Zigterman</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-3/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>Tjip Zigterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span&gt;Isn&#039;t the update option only available for fields based on implicit joins? 
	(Lots of those in the Party Model.) 
	
	I do remember vaguely that there was some talk a year or two ago about enabling updating over any join but I haven&#039;t found anything recent about that yet.&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p><span>Isn&#039;t the update option only available for fields based on implicit joins?<br />
	(Lots of those in the Party Model.) </p>
<p>	I do remember vaguely that there was some talk a year or two ago about enabling updating over any join but I haven&#039;t found anything recent about that yet.</span></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brockman</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-3/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brockman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#160;&lt;span&gt;I&#039;m sorry to say, but you are wrong. Joined fields in a BC can be updated. A perfect example is the Account BC which is based on S_PARTY and only has 5 fields from S_PARTY with the rest either calculated, linked, or joined from other tables. If you are referring to linked fields instead of joined fields then I would agree that you cannot update them in the instance of the main BC, but you can still update linked fields through various methods like script or shuttle applets. &lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>&nbsp;<span>I&#039;m sorry to say, but you are wrong. Joined fields in a BC can be updated. A perfect example is the Account BC which is based on S_PARTY and only has 5 fields from S_PARTY with the rest either calculated, linked, or joined from other tables. If you are referring to linked fields instead of joined fields then I would agree that you cannot update them in the instance of the main BC, but you can still update linked fields through various methods like script or shuttle applets. </span></p>
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		<title>By: varma</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-3/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>varma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you cant update a joined field,its in read only field.its like view in SQL,u cant update or modify views in SQL,in siebel also u cant update joined field ,u can just view the field</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>you cant update a joined field,its in read only field.its like view in SQL,u cant update or modify views in SQL,in siebel also u cant update joined field ,u can just view the field</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-3/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi every body,

join fileds are updated by using Dynamic picklist.The join filed is noramlly read only filed.Dyanmic picklist is based on child business component. the value property of Dynamic picklist is Null i.e it doesnt contain any value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>Hi every body,</p>
<p>join fileds are updated by using Dynamic picklist.The join filed is noramlly read only filed.Dyanmic picklist is based on child business component. the value property of Dynamic picklist is Null i.e it doesnt contain any value.</p>
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		<title>By: sainni</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-3/#comment-817</link>
		<dc:creator>sainni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,
we can update Join field by using dynamic pick list.

Thanks..,
Sainni</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>Hey,<br />
we can update Join field by using dynamic pick list.</p>
<p>Thanks..,<br />
Sainni</p>
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		<title>By: Mirza</title>
		<link>http://www.siebeloracle.com/siebel-is-it-possible-to-update-a-joined-field-siebel/comment-page-2/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Join filed can be update by pick applet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>Join filed can be update by pick applet.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dynamic Picklist is used to update a joined fields</description>
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		<title>By: Ajith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can update not just an implicit join field but an explicit join field too. Just have a Picklist in the field property. This works on Calculated Fields too. Have a Pick List on the Calculated field with a Pickmap and that becomes editable too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>You can update not just an implicit join field but an explicit join field too. Just have a Picklist in the field property. This works on Calculated Fields too. Have a Pick List on the Calculated field with a Pickmap and that becomes editable too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, first point of view: classical configuration.
Note: we only considering Single-Value Fields (SVF), because MVF fields are not called joined, since they don&#039;t use Join as a primary means of relationship. In case of SVF you can only update joined field using implicit join (like S_CONTACT&#039;s field in a BC based on S_PARTY), otherwise joined field will be read-only.
Second point of view: other options.
Lots of possibilities in this field for an experienced Sibeloid. :-) To name a few:
1) Runtime Event/Business Service/Workflow (especially for async update)
2) PreSetFieldValue/PreWriteRecord
3) Denarmalized table column/Denormalization Path column property (useful in some cases)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-size:10px;"></p><p>Well, first point of view: classical configuration.<br />
Note: we only considering Single-Value Fields (SVF), because MVF fields are not called joined, since they don&#8217;t use Join as a primary means of relationship. In case of SVF you can only update joined field using implicit join (like S_CONTACT&#8217;s field in a BC based on S_PARTY), otherwise joined field will be read-only.<br />
Second point of view: other options.<br />
Lots of possibilities in this field for an experienced Sibeloid. <img src='http://www.siebeloracle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  To name a few:<br />
1) Runtime Event/Business Service/Workflow (especially for async update)<br />
2) PreSetFieldValue/PreWriteRecord<br />
3) Denarmalized table column/Denormalization Path column property (useful in some cases)</p>
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